[d@DCC] Appeals court affirms Grokster v MGM

[Seth Johnson]

Russell McOrmond wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Seth Johnson wrote:
> 
> > This is still roughly true.  There would be no KaZaA or Gnutella
> > otherwise.
> 
>   KaZaA and other pseudo-P2P doesn't rely on people actually being nodes.

There's really no "pseudo-P2P" on the Internet, except perhaps if
that's a term describing restrictive provider policies.  They
provide ways to participate without being nodes, but those are
for connections that interfere with connectivity.  In order to
serve files, your computer needs to be found by IP, and your
computer needs to respond to requests -- in the protocols of
KaZaA or Gnutella, in this case.  Those requests my be mediated
by supernodes, but that's simply an optimizing function.  Those
supernodes still have to request file lists from other KaZaA
users. People can finger, telnet, ftp, do USENET with you, or do
Gnutella, if you have an IP and you run a server for the
particular protocol.

> Some part of the network are nodes (what KaZaA calles "supernodes"), and
> then other consumer-class users running KaZaA can interact (one-way,
> connecting out) with any number of "supernodes".
> 
>   This is a dangerous situation given that the fewer "supernodes" there
> are (the few actual Internet nodes), the more vulnerable any "network" is
> as it is only these "supernodes" who are doing the actual communication
> with the "consumer" nodes relying on these real nodes.
> 
> > I am running a 24/7 server on a dialup line since 1998 at least, serving
> > HTTP, SMTP, FTP and my own homecooked data protocol.
> 
>   I've not personally experiences one of these consumer gated connections,
> and often run servers on my home computers.


I really don't have the slightest clue why you refer to my
connection as a "consumer-class" or "consumer gates" connection. 
I specifically use dialup *because* dialup connections are common
carrier and their providers can't restrict them the way broadband
providers are allowed to.

> The closest to a gated
> connection is my current home connection uses a dynamic IP.


Right.  All you need is to be able to assign a domain name to
your current IP.


> I will be
> using IPSec to tunnel some IP addresses from my downtown office so figured
> I wouldn't bother paying the extra money from my home ISP for multiple
> fixed IP address routed to my home firewall when I can have many more IP
> addresses without additional cost from work.


You don't need a static IP to run a server.


Seth



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