[d@DCC] name suggestions
russell at flora.ca
Thu Apr 15 14:51:08 EDT 2004
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Jason Young wrote:
Just my personal answers.
> - are you focusing on copyright?
I would say no. I believe we would be better to focus on innovation and
creativity, rather than the current laws that govern these things.
Internationally these areas of policy are often mixed together under the
term "Intellectual Property", or even PCT
I'm wanting to avoid those that narrow, such as copyright, copyfreedom,
and especially copyleft (which is extremely narrow, even if I support it
in specific instances).
> - are you focusing on reform?
We want to be seen as "pro" something as much as possible, even if we
started as a response to reforms that would harm innovation and
Pro "business model neutrality"
Pro "independent creativity"
Pro "co-existence of commercial and non-commercial innovation and
Pro "citizens rights to own and control ICT"
I won't say "procreation" as that sounds like something different ;-)
> - do you want to invoke "expertise" (institute, centre, foundation),
> "constituency" (association, coalition, national), "dialogue" or
> "purpose" (union, national, forum, congress, etc.)
Ignoring my previous note, I like the word "citizen" even if we also
want to attract corporate support.
Many of these words have a defined structural meaning (Union,
foundation, etc) so we need to be careful not to pigeon-hole our structure
by picking a name that would direct us that way.
> - do you have any unifying themes? (i.e. copyright, public interest,
> the Internet, etc.)
Pro "citizens owning and controlling ICT" (A pro-rewording of
opposition to Legal protection for TPM/RMI/DRM).
> - don't like "audience" - too passive
I also believe many of us believe that the line between audience and
follow-on creation is extremely thin. This is why I wouldn't support a
name that focused on "fair use" or use in general.
> - don't like "libre" - means nothing in English
I use the term Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS). It works
great in Canadian and European government circles, but is lost on "the
I also disagree with the comment that the word "open" is more clear than
the word "free". Coming from heated debates over recent years between
"Free Software", "Open Source Software" and even "Shared source software",
you have to educate people on what any of the words "free, open or shared"
mean as peoples conceptions don't often have anything to do with what you
Freedom has a well understood meaning. As with the word "Rights" which
could include rights around creativity and innovation.
The word "Democracy" would require too much explanation for people as to
why we would use it.
The phrase "Digital Rights" made me think of "Management" after it, so
that may need too much explaining.
> - don't rush - a name is something you'll have to live with
Other issue that came up in a number of your suggestions: Some of the
names are very similar in theme to the Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF),
which makes me wonder again if we are re-inventing the wheel when we
really want to do in Canada what the EFF is doing in the USA. There is an
EFC.ca in Canada, but the ability to join with them and expand is severely
limited given the current people (3) who comprise EFC.ca.
Are we still looking to create a group to be a Canadian EFF entirely as
a response to problems in the EFC? When addressing the name issue, do we
need to publicly open this can-of-worms again as well? I don't want to go
back in the archives, but I got a déjà vu feeling.
Electronic Frontier Canada (EFC) - Can't be added to the list as it is
already taken, but if/when we grow large enough the possibility of merging
and using that name in common exists.
I also believe we have CIPPIC worrying about "Internet Policy", so can
leave that one alone ;-)
My quick preference vote (with my mind changing all the time ;-), adding
my own suggestion:
Digital Innovation and Creativity Canada (DICC)
(Creative) Citizens for Digital Freedom (CDF/CCDF)
> Canadians for Digital Freedom (CDF)
> Digital Commons Canada (DCC)
> Free Expression Canada (FEC)
> (Creative) Canadians for Cultural Freedom (CCCF)
> Libre Culture Canada (LCC)
> Free Culture Canada (FCC)
> Canadians for the Freedom of Culture in a Digital Environment (CanFree Culture)
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