[d@DCC] ATIP for Government commissioned software

Russell McOrmond russell at flora.ca
Thu Apr 15 11:48:24 EDT 2004


On 12 Apr 2004, Derek Wueppelmann wrote:

> Has there been any word on the software AI request? I'm really
> interested in what happens with that.

  At the Open Source weekend we thought of a way to "double our fun".  
Rather than having a self-employed private citizen like myself request
software, we decided that having an educational institution make the 
request would add to it.   We met a grad student who's professor was 
interested in such things.


Background for others
---------------------


  At the 2002 Open Source Solutions Showcase that we consider to be the 
birth-event of GOSLING <http://www.goslingcommunity.org/#events> where was 
discussion about how to open source government produced software.   We 
thought of a perfect test case:
  Termium  (Now at: http://www.termium.com/ )


  Under the hood of the web version is some PERL scripts and a database.  
While the database is proprietary, the PERL scripts and the data in the
database was created and/or commissioned by the Government of Canada.  

  Alain Clavet, Senior Policy Analyst, Office of the Commissioner of
Official Languages, was the author of French on the Internet: Key to the
Canadian Identity and the Knowledge Economy. March 2002.  He also 
recommended making Termium free-of-charge.

http://lists.canopener.ca/pipermail/discuss/2002-September/000608.html


  We also had Jay Lawrence, author of Termium Plus (and active PERL
mongerer and participant in Ottawa Open Source events), at that conference 
to discuss the Termium technology.

Quick google search finds this interesting summary:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/modperl/974728


What we are trying to do
------------------------

  We want to set precedent that software created by the Government of 
Canada, even if the work is outsourced to a consultant, is available to 
Canadians under Access to Information requests.  If this is already true, 
and that $5 will get you the source code, then this would encourage the 
government to actively Open Source their projects.  This way they get the 
benefit of "resource multiplication" and other such things, rather than 
the embarrassment of having people just pay $5 and have a third party 
release the information.


http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/ps/atip/
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/gos-sog/atip-aiprp/

  Access to Information is handled per-department, so you need to know
where the information is in order to request it:

http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/gos-sog/atip-aiprp/ATIP-Coords_e.asp


BTW: while we have someone doing the AtoI request for this specific piece 
of software, there is nothing stopping anyone else reading this note from 
finding out about other Government authored software and doing AtoI 
requests for them.   Do the research, do the paperwork, pay your $5, and 
wait to see what type of interesting response you will get.

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