Gordon Cook: Re: RFC3271 and independance of "cyberspace"

[Michael Richardson]

  RFC3271 has some comments about IPR rights in cyberspace from ISOC.
  Keith Moore suggested some changes:

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well, keith since we cannot amend RFCs maybe you should prepare one of your own?
I am not sure that the idea of killing intellectual property is the right one either.
We all know there is something wrong with the current set up but I am no sure that
the wholesale dispatch of Intellectual Property concepts is the right answer either!

vint

At 08:16 PM 4/30/2002 -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
>> ""
>>    Internet is for everyone - but it won't be if legislation around the
>>    world creates a thicket of incompatible laws that hinder the growth
>>    of electronic commerce, stymie the protection of intellectual
>>    property, and stifle freedom of expression and the development of
>>    market economies.  Let us dedicate ourselves to the creation of a
>>    global legal framework in which laws work across national boundaries
>>    to reinforce the upward spiral of value that the Internet is capable
>>    of creating.
>> ""
>
>I'd like to propose an alternate paragraph here:
>
>""
>Internet is for everyone - but it won't be if intellectual property laws
>continue to encroach on our freedom to develop and use new technologies,
>to share ideas and expressions of ideas with others, to comment on and 
>criticize others' ideas and expressions of ideas, to restrict our use 
>of ordinary language, and to effectively give a small number of people 
>control over the distribution and licensing of popular works.  Let us 
>dedicate ourselves to the worldwide abolishment of the provisions in 
>intellectual property laws - copyrights, patents, and trademarks - which 
>stifle the freedom of expression and the development of a gloabl marketplace 
>of ideas, to reinforce the upward spiral of real value (not to be confused 
>with money) that the citizens of the world can create with the Internet's 
>help.
>""
>
>Keith

which then resulted in this message from Gordon Cook: